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JamieNatalie
As a husband and wife, we’ve only had negative experiences online so far in finding anyone who is actually for real and genuine. It’s mostly scam artists who send us messages, followed by a few immature individuals looking for “fun” aka a fling/hookup, or they don’t have a grasp on reality and think life is about constant “traveling” instead of building a loving family and putting down roots.

So with the above being said, I’m going to make this very simple. To start off… If a person hasn't taken the time to read our profile and understand who we are as a family, and what we are seeking as far as sister wives, we will know because will check to see. Why would someone expect to chat if they haven’t even taken the time to know anything about who they are chatting with???! It doesn’t make any sense unless the person behind the account is a fake which is more than likely. If people are for real, they will actually view one another’s profile and blogs if applicable to find out as much about each other as possible. Assuming true marriage and family is what’s wanted.

Secondly, we are here for serious biblical plural marriage aka “polygyny” only! Not this mentality of “I’m checking out this lifestyle.” This is actually serious! For everyone involved, it has to be an “all in” and 100% dedication forever with a willingness to be humble and learn. If not, we aren’t interested because we cannot bring a weak link into our family. That messes up lives, family, and most importantly the children. Spelled out, proper plural marriage (polygyny) is a husband who is in multiple (3-5) marriages (one man and one wife per marriage) which means a different marriage bed and master bedroom per marriage/wife but we still live as a larger family unit in the same home. It is very much patriarch/matriarch based. That means there isn’t a single big marriage where we are all married together, but rather it means I am married multiple times (3-5) individual marriages and concurrently to each wife. So for each wife, it’s technically still monogamous. In our family, we are 100% heterosexual and seek a wholesome family unit based on this orientation only! We believe in plural marriage based on Christian principles/values, and will not participate with the family in any alternative perversions beyond what is correct and holy. Absolutely no polyamory, polyandry, or even polygamy in general. Only polygyny!

Those who are obsessed with “traveling” or think life must constantly be about “fun” all the time, will not be a good fit. Now understand, we aren’t sticklers. Of course we like to have fun as a family with quality time together, but we are also about building our ranch up and living self sufficient which requires focus, reality, and being responsible. Being a plural family is about everyone contributing their time and talents of their own free will toward the betterment of the family and homestead as a whole. It’s about selfless giving. It’s about teaching and home schooling children. It’s about wives treating each other as sisters who have each other’s back to share the load as mothers without jealousy and without an attitude of who can one-up the other. It’s about a husband who treats each wife with the upmost respect, compassion, love, and takes time to be romantic with each one. Him truly knowing each wife and her unique needs so she can be who and what she wants to be in life to her fullest potential.

On the physical side of things, this might sound harsh but I must be truthful up front for the benefit of everyone. We are looking for sister wives who aren’t into partying, clubbing, drinking, tattoos, piercings, etc. As a husband, I’m not looking for the fashion model types but rather a simple down to earth righteous woman x2-3 who takes care of her body in a healthy manner, is comfortable in her own skin, confident in herself, dresses modestly, doesn’t cake on excessive makeup, or doesn’t remove her womanly and physical maturity attributes by modifying her body with all the modern aesthetics trends and fads. Being a natural woman who isn’t fake, who can be free and confident to be herself, the way God created her is important for a healthy and happy life. For a husband to expect more or less of a woman is akin to saying that she isn’t good enough as she comes. As a family, we want the REAL you in every aspect.

We’re also looking for wives who are more naturally oriented when it comes to diet. That means farm/ranch raised non GMO, pesticide free produce that we raise as a family. Also, meat that we raise and other animal fats that are healthy and free of growth hormones, etc. We are into preserving food, freeze drying, etc. While we respect and believe in modern medicine for emergencies, we are not into vaccines in general or other therapeutics which mask symptoms. We believe in proper nutrition as a means to avoid morbidity and as the primary preventive. The body is amazing at healing when treated correctly. We especially do not subscribe to anything COVID related. We are in with reality and not blindly trusting of government or the official narrative. We believe in true liberty and freedom through constitutional principles as our founding fathers did.

We are looking for sister wives who are closer in age to Natalie (my wife) so there can be some relation in terms of life experience. A woman in her 20’s to early 30’s is the right fit for many reasons. There will be no such thing as a so called “1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th” wife in our household. Just the title of “wife” and equal for each woman. Each woman who is a wife is entitled to be a queen and mother in our home with the upmost respect and dignity in her own right. As a husband, I wish to have at least one or more children with each wife so the family can all be related through both blood and marriage. Having siblings from each mother makes each wife a mother to all and it links/bonds the family together.

Simply put, we are only interested in plural marriage if every adult is in it for the right reasons. That means being patient with one another, loving, giving, and quick to forgive with no tribal behavior or a breaking out into teams mentality within the family, no abuse, no manipulation, no jealousy, no divide and conquer, no coveting, and no complicating of situations. Neither husband nor wives can be a complex person, nor exclusively driven by either pure emotion or pure logic. All must have a good balance of both when needed in order to work a problem or deescalate a situation in a mature manner. This is a must. There is no room for drama or immaturity. Polygyny requires the upmost maturity and comprehension of reality.

Finally, we will not entertain any scammers or people who message us, causing us to get our hopes up, and then just disappear into thin air, aka stop answering texts, calls, etc. Its essential to be mature enough to just be honest up front and not lead people into thinking you are into them, only to ghost them and play games! Anything less than being completely open and honest disqualifies a person for monogamous marriage, let alone plural! Honestly, everyone should be adults and start talking by using real communication soon after meeting on-line and establishing trust. That means the texting needs to level off and be replaced by real voice and even visual communication. Real communication is essential for people who are serious about success in business, family, friends, and marriage. It’s the only way to read one other through tone of voice, body language, etc.

Sorry but not sorry to be so direct. It has come to the point where we must be assertive in what we are seeking and in our expectations. When enough people take advantage of your heart, it becomes necessary to go about things differently. We have almost 0% faith that there is anyone real when it comes to online dating. We feel beaten. We are here for the real thing. We pay to be a VIP on here at times so we can meet and communicate with with potential people, but as it turns out, many are either fake accounts, or a complete flake out in the end. It’s a complete waste of time!!! This is serious! Marriage and family is serious. Hearts are on the line and children are in the mix! Genuine people make themselves vulnerable in order to be honorable and honest with the goal in mind to find a family member in holy marriage. Playing mind games, seeking hookups, and scamming when someone is trying to be genuine and vulnerable by putting their heart on the chopping block is wrong, irresponsible, and grossly shows a lack of moral judgement and integrity on the part of the person taking advantage! It’s cruel!!!

We will keep our account here and check our messages often in the event that someone genuine and also in search for something real finds us. If we end up being compatible, that’s wonderful! But we will no longer actively seek for sister wives online. We will be transitioning to more of the in-person courting with only local people who are truly raised up in families who practice plural marriage, or are well familiar with the correct practice. It is painfully evident that true biblical plural marriage cannot be achieved in an online environment where too many people abuse and mock the practice of plural marriage with all the modern counterfeits, dishonesty, and immature sex perversions!
Polywifen

I have never ignored a message on a Poly site, even ones that are frustratingly void of any sort of intro, badly spelled and clearly not having read my profile, I have always answered, because I am polite, have I received the same courtesy?  No I haven't and the way I look at it now (and what I told a couple recently who told me that I am 'The ONLY one who answered them'  it is that 'No response is a no'  I do not like it, I hate it in fact, but no one deserves a response from an unsolicited interaction I suppose, much the same as someone who tries to chat you up in the street, I do believe it is probably for the best if you ignore them.  But if you engage in a nice interaction, what happens then, I am pretty sure people IRL don't behave how they do on the internet.


So, being on a fair few internet groups, personals sites and forums, I have written a lot of profiles, some are long, some are a bit shorter but generally when it comes to polygamy personals I make it clear that I am looking for POLYGYNY, that is a man who has separate marriages all under one family.  I am committed to the sister wife way of life and have no desire to be the filling in a couple sandwich.  (Sorry, not sorry).


So imagine my surprise when I was contacted by a couple who I know are looking for a triad, I should have known something was up because after me writing to them telling them I read their profile, five minutes later they asked me if I had read it.  So, these people are obviously not very observant, but I figured they just wanted to chat to people in Europe as most of the people on this site are American.  I love their country too, I have been a couple times and I am hoping to go again soon to seek out some family history so I was very happy to talk to them about where they live.


Then came the 'So are you looking for a triad'?  So I said 'Nope, I am only seeking polygyny'   (I mean, it's literally the first line of my 'Who I want to meet' paragraph) 


So their reply was 'This is not what we want, sorry we didn't read your profile before'  


Now, I do believe yes, they should be sorry, because it is bloody stupid to contact people with the information you want RIGHT THERE (and on that front, for pete's sake people, put this information in your profile) but am I writing this just to cathartically rant over people not reading profiles?


No, I don't see the point, I was contacted by a guy 20 years younger then me the other day, gleefully ignoring my age requests, people (mostly men, let's be honest) not reading profiles properly is a daily occurrence in my life.  


What piqued me and brought about this screed was what they did right after, they blocked me....


Why?


Did they think that I was so enamoured with our 5 minute conversation about the beauty of the Netherlands that I would harass them until they had changed their mind about Unicorn hunting?   


Did they believe that banning someone means they will no longer turn up in their searches?  (Ooooh they are SO mistaken on that one!!) 


Or are they, simply, selfish people, wanting it make it clear that now that 'they' are not interested in you, that you are undeserving of any sort of response to them, even if it is simply.  'Not a problem, good luck with your search with a little emoji at the end because I am nice like that


I wasn't interested in them already, I had read their profile, so why does it seem like they wanted to punish me for them not having done the same?  

Polywifen Jul 15 · Comments: 2 · Tags: polygyny, courtesy, manners, triads, unicorns
MarkNiwot

...and single mothers with children, especially young ones...


Hopefully by now you can see what's coming.  Myself and others have been warning about it for a long time now, and we're there.


You have probably already seen empty shelves.  It will get worse - much worse.  And if you thought the riots were bad before, wait until this country sees genuine widespread hunger for the first time in its history.  The major cities will be a nightmare.


Which is why I am thankful many here are able to see the benefit of a larger loving family.  ESPECIALLY in a more rural area - and the further from major populations, the better.


I also encourage people to understand the fragility of the power grid (as an electronic engineer, this has been on my mind for well over a decade now).  It's why we are 100% off-grid here, in every way (solar, primarily).


Be thinking now about what is coming, and what you are able to accomplish.  By the time most people wake up to what has already happened, it will be too late.


Blessings...



MarkNiwot

It was a study of marriage that was primary to my coming to see that, not only may a man take more than one wife, but we "have inherited lies" in a number of areas, as the prophet Jeremiah said we would one day come to understand.  And as the Messiah, Yahushua (or Yeshua, but His mother never once called him 'jesus' -- and neither did anyone else on planet earth for about 16 centuries) put it - what we have "heard it says," is too often really not at ALL what He actually Wrote.


And the way we can discern the 'truth from the lies' about what the Bible really says is CONSISTENCY.  If we see what looks like a contradiction, it's either our misunderstanding, or even the translator's, but not His.  Often those 'apparent contradictions', BTW (as in the case of marriage) are where we can find the greatest insight into distinctions we might otherwise miss.


Much of the 'twisting', however, is deliberate.  Too many men in positions of power (even if not real Authority) believe they know better than the Author of Scripture what He SHOULD have written, if He was as smart as they think they are.    That's the history of much of the 'sunday church' -- that outlawed and changed much of what He Wrote.  Prohibition of polygyny about 800 years after they killed Him was followed by 'priestly celibacy' less than a century later, for obvious reasons, that have now reaped a nasty fruit.


And all of that, by the way, is why the whole world is such a Steenkin' Mess today - it's not just society having utterly twisted the concept of marriage, but everything from diet to what is "money" (and what is not - which is why we have the biggest debt bubble and coming collapse of the 'global reserve currency' in human history.)  Yeah, ultimately they call evil, 'good,' and good, 'evil'.   They're proud of it, too.


Some, hopefully even many, here, may understand that they have been "called to polygyny by God," which might well be true.  If so, then He will also call you to study and understand the rest of what He Wrote for us as well.  The tremendous beauty of that is, once you see how the "pieces fit together" -  they will ALL fit together!  Every "yod and tittle", from Bereshiet or "In the Beginning" of the Book to Maps at the end...


For anyone who's gotten this far - I do a number of radio shows every week, both live and podcasted later.  One is a daily news summary and commentary, from a Scriptural perspective; the are Torah/Bible teachings, and my longest-running show, called "Come out of her, My people".  (All available at:   www.hebrewnationonline.com )


Many here might find a teaching I did recently from the Book of Exodus particularly interesting, even challenging, but it will certainly make this whole topic more clear:


Back to Slavery - but NOT the Exodus 21 Kind!



JamieNatalie
In the past two years, as my wife and I have had deep conversations with one another, the picture became very clear that plural marriage was not only the answer for our family, but it literally felt like a matter of personal inspiration from God to both of us that this is correct for our family as we are literally entering a new era in this world. Perhaps some background is warranted here in order to explain where we are both coming from…

COVID has literally changed everything in this world. It has shown us just how quickly the world can change with supply shortages, violence, and the breakdown of society. For our family living on our ranch, it is obviously critical that our family build in numbers to reach self sufficiency in our ability to grow food, take care of animals, teach children, secure our land, and have additional children. A family in our situation must become a pride, or tribe of sorts. The ability to have additional wives multiplies the number of children and creates an environment where no wives or the husband is overwhelmed with responsibility. The adults literally bear one another’s burdens. The needs of companionship and help are met for everyone involved. Wives have each other’s back and complete loyalty. The joys of life are also multiplied many times over for everyone as long as there is no jealousy but rather in place, we all have complete selflessness and consecration.

Another facet in which plural marriage can be a benefit is that more women who wish to be loved and honorably married in this day and age have the chance. I’ve witnessed over the past 16 years in my line of professional work how many women are objectified by society in such a way that they are dehumanized and used for self gratifying pleasure. Many younger guys as well as an increasing number of older guys have been conditioned by modern society that having feelings for a woman and/or marriage is somehow a weakness. I’ve heard many women in their 20’s and 30’s complain that they can’t even get a guy to ask them out on a formal respectful date, yet he will not hesitate to ask her for physical benefits, or compromising pics/videos in a virtual only relationship. I’ve heard story after story about how many younger women reluctantly endure disrespectful and unnatural acts during sexual intimacy in a friends with benefits type of relationship. Pornography, the fashion industry, and Hollywood have poisoned the natural and loving behaviors between men and women in this modern and perverse world. It has caused unrealistic expectations in the way guys view the bodily aesthetics of a woman, and how he thinks her body should function sexually. Many of these women won’t admit to being used and mistreated while it’s happening, because there’s a part of her that is selfless and giving in hopes at some point that the guy will grow feelings toward her in return, as she allows him to do what he does. In most cases, him developing feelings for her and the chance at marriage never occurs. Inevitably, the guy moves on once she expresses her disappointment and hurt. She is dismissed in his mind as somehow being crazy or overly emotional. He cannot understand that sex is a powerful expression of love within her natural brain construct in which he has recklessly toyed with that powerful and divine set of emotions. This is not without consequence. It’s a vicious and cruel cycle of playing with fire. There is a simple antidote however… A component of true plural marriage is a man who clearly sees the realities of how men and woman should naturally interact lovingly and therefore, he’s in a more mature state of mind. A man who seeks plural marriage is deeply committed to the holy and sacred institution of marriage. His commitment to her is forever. He sees womanhood and motherhood as the most noble and sacred of all. He is capable of having and replicating feelings of true love. He is therefore respectful and willing to treat women as queens through marriage of each one. Every woman who wishes for the true happiness of love, marriage, and children in this world should have that chance. Every woman should have someone to protect and take care of her needs. Plural marriage can be a counterbalance to increase her chances of true love and honorable marriage due to the inability or lack of willingness in so many younger men now days.

In our deep and connecting conversations, my wife Natalie expressed her desire to have sisters in which she could share her life and husband with. For her, it’s a loyal support group of women necessary to combat life and this daily world together, while also supporting each other’s individual talents, needs, interests, and even careers. She has a very giving heart. She is full of sisterly love.

For myself, it’s the ability and need to love additional wives equally at 100%. It’s the desire to connect with the divine female mind and experience the lovely and diverse personality of each one. I love deep intellectual conversations with people as it is. Having multiple wives where I can share my thoughts, hear her thoughts, and discuss the universe with each one is a joy. For myself, it’s also the joy of making a woman laugh, to see the happy look in the eyes of each wife knowing she feels loved, safe, cherished, adored, and realize daily for certain that she is literally a queen in the eyes of her husband.

As my wife, and soon to be wives travel down this path, we have come to the realization that there will be some people who cannot or will refuse to understand why we choose to have our family in this seemingly non-traditional arrangement. Most within even my own faith cannot comprehend plural marriage despite it being an inseparable part of our history and still a core part of our doctrine. Additionally, the biblical roots of plural marriage are undeniable. It’s indeed interesting and troubling that so many in this world can disparage, mock, and be critical of plural marriage while also being hypocritical in championing affairs with multiple partners and groups involving any gender or declared gender.

What cannot be mistaken however is the proper and moral method of plural marriage. As with all good and holy things, this world will find ways to corrupt and cause counterfeits. Polygamy is a general term which is often used to describe any poly relationship. It does not however properly describe biblical plural marriage. As my wife and I discussed the rules of how we go about this, we assured one another that we would have strict standards of which we are both unanimous. We recognized that the only way would be specifically to practice “polygyny” which involves the husband and each wife to be strictly heterosexual. Polygyny is not one marriage where everyone is married as a group, but rather one marriage per wife and a different marriage bed per wife. Each marriage is between one man and one woman with the same husband in each marriage as the common factor as head of the family. Not to be a ruler but to be a leader and protector with each wife as equal. It is a Godly inspired order of patriarch and matriarch(s). Unfortunately this is a foreign concept today even though it has been the ways of God from the beginning.

Despite what the world and select friends/family may think in ignorance, our desire to practice plural marriage is not a result of some perverted mid life crisis to “spice up our marriage” as a group with a girlfriend or two. I did not pressure my wife Natalie into accepting plural marriage. She had more vision and understanding of it than even myself. She was quicker to adopt living this way than I was because she understands it so well. I on the other hand was more reserved in my timing to actually put it into motion. I married a very mature, wonderful, and wise woman beyond her years! I love being married to her ❤️
Polywifen
I have been on a polygamous journey for over a decade now. I started investigating non monogamy and polyamory first, but decided the frequent partner changes and lack of permanence bothered me,  I wanted stability, I wanted a life with someone, not just a hobby relationship.  Back then, it was my understanding that polygamy was for only certain religions (Mormons and Muslims) and not for the rest of us so I thought it would not be for me.  But then came the internet message groups.  I started off on a yuku group not long after Big Love started airing (yes, I have been on the polynet WAAAAAYYYY too long) and finally found a home, a place where people were interested in Polygamy (mostly Polygyny) who were all different faiths (and none) and we were all new and ignorant, it was delightful.


I met my poly family on there when I was still new and ignorant. 

At this point I would usually make a joke about it 'not ending well' but tbh I think it ended fairly well, I went through a lot of negatives, but I also learnt a lot, grew and I have an even more enriched life now than I might have had, had I not gone through it so for that, I would say.  It went well enough.


Back to the polyweb then, not ready to seek but more in an advisory role while I healed and recovered.  I put most of my energy into my family and having a happy life.  


So now, many years later, I consider myself a bit of a single woman poly advocate, I am the loudmouth who challenges the anti polygamist narrative that claims that women are brainwashed into polygamy and they don't 'love themselves'.  I also advise couples against couple privileged behaviour which can be othering towards us single Potentials and leads to the destruction of healthy polygamous relationships (been there.....) If I say or have said anything to you, please don't take it badly, I see things from a singleton's point of view and it is important to know our mindset and how things might look to us, I am trying to help, not upset anyone.


I am very close to my extended family although we live in separate countries, I hope you would want to meet them though,  I have lived in many places in my Nation  (UK) and also spent a significant amount of time in the United States and my family live in Central Florida, if you are a great lover of the Disney/theme park experience, you will definitely be getting those holidays with me.  That being said, I do prefer staying on this side of the Atlantic for myriad reasons, but will move if the person/people and conditions are right.  I am especially fond of Canada, PNW and NZ sooooo I must have a thing for rain. ;o))


What I am seeking ideally is a classic polygynous relationship with a husband and wife/ves. Or a single poly minded man who I could be a first wife to and we can then build up our polygamous family from scratch.  I have zero interest in bedsharing or threesomes so no triads at all please.  I am not materialistic, I don't care if you are a bin man or a business man, I am not after riches, I am after a man who is strong, passionate, kind and likes to laugh.  Loves and emotionally invests in his family, child friendly and treats women and children with respect, not as slaves of his household. 


I am 5'10 and full figured/curvy, so you have to be into that I daresay. I am not necessarily looking for a man taller, but it is a benefit because I like to look up to a man, but with all else being equal, I don't really care that much. I tend to go for quite pale men, the ones who go red in the sun, with blue eyes and a warm smile. If during the summer you get lobster comparisons, we might be a match! Mentally fit and more positive than negative as I am a bit sensitive to emotions and find depressives draining. Honesty is of extreme importance to me, so if you are in the habit of lying to avoid confrontation, please pass me by.  I don't mind facial hair, a receding pate or beer gut, I am not looking for Adonis, I am looking for a good man and with confidence comes sex appeal. 


For my part, I love to treat my man like a King, to indulge and please him, tempered by a bit of lighthearted teasing j to keep him honest! ;o)  I like to go out and experience cultural things or family things. Not really much of a club type/nightlife. I prefer to spend time together in the evenings, talking together, eating and drinking in the mediterranean style manner into the late evening.   My hobbies include historical reenactments, costuming, watching films and geeky culture.  I love historical cooking too, though only plant based so no, the wild boar will not be on the menu!!  

I think spending time in each dyad is important though, but I am flexible with how those dates go, doesn't have to be night time, doesn't have to be something romantic.  It's just about building on our emotional intimacy and touching base.  Going out to eat, see a film or walking around a museum is fun for me, things need not be too structured or expensive, I just would like to spend time with you.


With regards to sister wives I do consider myself a woman's woman.  In that I value female friendships and crave that emotional connection in my life and family.  I am somewhat extroverted but  not emotionally overbearing, I have cultivated a very useful model to process jealousy and I would hope you have done some work with that yourself so as not to make it a big issue.  I am also into clear, honest communication.  There will be no expectation of telepathy with me, no giving the cold shoulder or dropping passive aggressive hints.  I will always be honest with you and expect the same in return.  I like spending time doing girlie things, I will paint your nails or dye your hair if you asked, I will gladly mix cocktails and watch that terrible romcom he didn't want to watch with you OR if you just want to sit and read your book alone, I will respect that,  it is about respecting the woman YOU are, not trying to force you into being the woman I want!


What I love seeing in profiles 

'Honesty is important' 'Love children' 'not looking for a specific type, just the right person' 'loyal' 'equality'.


What I dislike seeing in profiles


'Seeking a female'  'want a third' 'why is it so hard to find a woman?'  'looking to add to are (our) relationship'  'no kids/divorcees/single mothers' 'must be willing to have children for us' 'you must send me a full length picture and an essay on why i should pick you to be considered to be a part of my harem' and finally 'I am in charge of this profile, you must please me before I will let you talk to my husband because I can't trust him to make good decisions'...... 


Plus those who are racist, sexist or any ist who thinks just because I value a traditional type of relationship myself, that I insist that all women should be forced to live a way that doesn't suit them.  Any indication that your woman is not into polygamy and you are forcing her into it by threats of infidelity and a history of such with her making her fear a recurrence of such behaviour. Any desire for hierarchy amongst the wives, I have no interest in junior/secondary wife status or being treated as a concubine. I will forever be grateful to a first wife who was so kind as to want to share an amazing man with me, she would be a true Queen, but our status in the home will be equal, even if she will get the outside legal validation. 


So anyway, I hope this helps you understand me a bit, I am rather a big mouth poly woman on social media but don't let that scare you, I am just a woman who is open, passionate and a bit sarcastic, but most of it is tongue in cheek.  If anything connects with you, please do say hello.


Kind regards,

Natasha

2020

In quarantine black mirror episode

London, UK

xx




Polywifen Apr 19 '20 · Rate: 5 · Comments: 2 · Tags: polygamy, polygyny, groups, single, potentials
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